Interview with ABC News Breakfast

James Glenday, Host: On federal politics, Don Farrell joins us now from Parliament House. Don, good morning and welcome back to News Breakfast.

Trade Minister, Don Farrell: Good morning, James.

Glenday: On the final sitting day, could you have imagined returning to Canberra knowing that you'd knocked off the Liberal Party's leader, Peter Dutton, and the leader of The Greens, Adam Bandt as well?

Minister Farrell: Well, the truth is, James, I don't think anybody could have predicted that. I was confident, based on the work that we'd done over the previous three years, especially in my space, of trade, that we would be returned and returned with a majority. But even I couldn't believe the results as they came in on Saturday night. I think the Greens have suffered because so many times in the last Parliament they blocked sensible policies of the Albanese Government. They voted with the Coalition in the Senate to block, for instance, legislation on housing, sensible housing policy, and I think they've paid the political price for that.

Glenday: This outcome must be deeply satisfying for you. Personally, I just wonder, have you ever felt so satisfied after an election win? Where does this rank? Is it the sweetest victory, almost a fairytale for Labor?

Minister Farrell: Look, it doesn't, doesn't get any better than this, James. When you've been involved in politics as long as I have, this has to be the sweetest victory of all.

Glenday: There you go. Now there's a trade war happening. I'm not sure where you're going to end up, but if you are reinstalled as Trade Minister, you'll have a lot on your plate. Do you know where you'll head?

Minister Farrell: First of all, look, we've got a number of objectives that we will need to prosecute and prosecute very quickly. On election night I got messages from my European colleagues, they're very keen to re-engage and have another crack at an EU free trade agreement. The EU has 450 million people, and a $17 trillion economy. They'll be very important if we can get a breakthrough there. The Indians also contacted me. We were very close to a new free trade agreement with them and I think we can move very quickly now to finalise that agreement. And of course, in the next few weeks, our new free trade agreement with the United Arab Emirates, which sends all of our products into the UAE tariff free, will come into force and that will be important. And of course we, we want to continue discussions with the United States. We believe in free and fair trade and that's the argument we'll be prosecuting with them.

Glenday: I think it'll be closely watched. Do you expect to head to either China or to the States first?

Minister Farrell: Look, we'll worry about that after we know who the new Trade Minister is next week.

Glenday: That's fair.

Minister Farrell: But we will move very quickly to ensure that Australia's interests are protected here. China, of course, is our largest trading partner. We're concerned about the tariff war between China and the United States. We believe in free and fair trade and we think that those tariffs should be removed on China.

Glenday: Okay. You are a factional leader of the Labor right. You were once unkindly referred to as a faceless man. Of course you do have a face. And here you are speaking to us. What are you asking the Prime Minister for though? You've got a lot of influence as these Ministerial portfolios are carved up.

Minister Farrell: A face that a mother could love. And they do call me other things too, by the way. That's not the only thing they call me. Look, I'm not going to give the Prime Minister any advice on what he should do. He's won a fabulous victory here. He ran a flawless campaign. His strategy throughout the whole of the last term was about getting reelected and continuing the policies that we took to the election. I'm very happy to leave it all to him and to accept whatever he might wish me to do in the new government.

Glenday: Ok, just before I let you go, I want to get you on an international issue that's been developing. Has the Albanese government made any contact with India or Pakistan regarding these cross border strikes we're seeing?

Minister Farrell: Look, that's an issue of course, that is in the hands of our very competent and successful Foreign Minister, Penny Wong. But of course we don't want to see any conflict in our region. We'd like to see an end to the conflict in the Middle East, the conflict in Ukraine, Russia, and we certainly don't want to see any conflict in our own region.

Glenday: And Don, just one last one. We saw smoke this morning from the Vatican. You went to the Pope's funeral. I'm not sure what that was like, but do you have a personal preference of who the next Pope should be or the direction of the Catholic Church? I'm guessing this is outside the bounds of your factional influence.

Minister Farrell: Well, as a matter of fact, James, I do have a personal favourite in the Conclave at the moment. And that is the Australian - Ukrainian Cardinal, Cardinal Bychok. I was lucky enough to meet with him twice while I was in Rome. He's a very, very fine man. A very holy man. I'd like to see him as the next pope. My wife, on the other hand, who's Filipino, she would like to see Cardinal Tagle as the next pope. And we also had the opportunity of meeting him at the Vatican. So, there's a couple of candidates for you, James.

Glenday: There you go. Well, we'll have to wait and see if you've backed a winner there, Don Farrell, the Trade Minister. Perhaps the continuing Trade Minister. We'll wait and see for that as well. Thank you so much for joining News Breakfast this morning.

Minister Farrell: Thanks, James.